75,000+ podcast views across platforms
1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed
A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners
75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners
Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.
Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.
Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.
Real Conversations. Real Growth.
Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:
the pressure no one talks about
the decisions that shape teams and businesses
what actually works when things get messy
These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.
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EP 131: Leadership Development for Small Business - The Skills No One Teaches Your Managers | HR Systems Series
Promoting your best employee into management without development is why things fall apart. Here are the 6 skills every manager needs - plus a 4-level leadership program you can run with no training budget.
EP 130: Workforce Planning for Small Business - How to Hire Before You’re Drowning
Most small businesses hire when they’re already drowning - the worst time to hire well. Here’s how workforce planning gets you ahead of the next hire, even with a small team.
EP 129: The HR Metrics Every Small Business Should Track | HR Systems Series
How many people left your business last year - and when? If you can't answer that, you're guessing. Here are the five categories of HR metrics every small business should track, and what the numbers are telling you to do.
EP 128: Small Business Benefits That Actually Compete for Talent | HR Systems Series
You’re not failing your employees because you can’t offer the big package. Here are the five categories of benefits, and the low-cost perks that actually keep good people.
EP 127: The 5 Root Causes of Underperformance (And How to Fix Each One) | HR Systems Series Ep. 7
If your team feels confused or resentful, it's not a motivation problem - it's an expectations problem. Here's how to diagnose and fix underperformance.
EP 126: How to Handle Employee Leave Without Getting Sued (FMLA, ADA & Bereavement Explained)
One employee asks for time off and you say yes. Another asks three weeks later and you say no. That's how discrimination claims start — and most owners don't see it coming.
Episode 125: Salary Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means
I’ve never seen a company get this completely right in 20 years. Episode 5 of the 13 HR Foundations series breaks down the federal exemption test most owners don’t know exists — and the three audit questions that could save you a six-figure mistake.
Episode 124: Employee Handbooks & HR Policies — The Rules of the House
"We don't have a policy for that" isn't a defense — it's just irresponsibility. Here are the 5 required and 5 strongly recommended policies every employee handbook needs, plus the acknowledgment workflow that turns the document into real protection.
EP 123: Onboarding - The 30/60/90 Plan That Actually Works
A bad hire costs about 50% of their annual salary - and most of that cost comes from failed onboarding. In Episode 3 of the HR Systems Series, Kerri walks through the 30/60/90 plan that actually works.
EP 122: How to Build a Small Business Hiring Process
Stop winging your hiring. In this episode of Don't Waste the Chaos, Kerri breaks down the 5 components every small business needs to hire well, stay compliant, and stop the chaos cycle.
EP 121: The 13 HR Systems Every Small Business Needs - Start Here | HR Systems Series Ep. 1
HR isn't a department — it's a responsibility. This is the series launch for the 13 HR Systems framework, starting where every business should start: employer responsibility and HR mindset.
EP 120: How to Have a Performance Conversation With an Employee (Step by Step)
The exact 5-step framework for having the performance conversation you've been avoiding — what to say, how to say it, and what to do when it goes sideways.
EP 119: 5 Signs Your HR Is Already Broken (And You Don't Know It Yet)
Most owners don't realize their HR is broken until someone quits, sues, or the DOL comes knocking. Here are the 5 signs — and three fixes under $400.
EP 118: Why Entrepreneurs Struggle to Focus
Most entrepreneurs don't have a focus problem — they have a commitment problem. Here's why fragmentation is killing your growth and what to do instead.
EP 117: When to Hire in a Small Business and What Happens If You Hire Too Soon
Many founders assume growth means hiring quickly. In this episode companion article, Kerri Roberts breaks down what happens when small business owners hire too soon, classify roles incorrectly, or build a business around relief instead of structure.
EP 116: Is Marriage Still Worth It? Commitment, Faith, and Modern Marriage
Marriage is increasingly questioned in modern culture. In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts and Terry Roberts talk honestly about commitment, divorce, finances, faith, and the practical habits that help sustain a healthy marriage over time.
EP 115: Why Leaders Feel Responsible for Everyone in Their Business
Why do so many leaders feel responsible for everything—and everyone—in their business?
In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts sits down with entrepreneur Rachel Wortman to explore leadership pressure, identity ceilings, and the difference between stewardship and control.
EP 113: The Identity Crisis After Leaving Corporate Leadership: What Actually Helps
A lot of people talk about the logistics of leaving corporate leadership. Fewer talk about what happens to your identity after the title disappears. This is what the transition into entrepreneurship can really feel like—and what actually helps.
EP 114: The Part No One Says Out Loud About Leaving a Six-Figure Role
Everyone talks about the freedom of leaving corporate. Almost no one talks about the psychological cost of walking away from certainty. When high-capacity leaders step out of six-figure roles to build something of their own, the real shift isn’t financial—it’s identity.
EP 112: How Do You Start a Consulting Firm After Leaving Corporate?
Leaving corporate to start a consulting firm isn’t hard because you lack skills. It’s hard because your identity, nervous system, and relationship to money all recalibrate at once.